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Individual composers / Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
« on: August 16, 2022, 09:06:22 am »
Quote from: Lionel Harrison on August 16, 2022, 08:56:19 am
it strikes me as an academic exercise rather than an artistic one.
It essentially means composing an own piece based on the few minutes of sketches, which is also why Evju calls his work his own Piano Concerto based on Grieg's sketches rather than a 'reconstruction'.

Quote from: Lionel Harrison on August 16, 2022, 08:56:19 am
In terms of both scale and importance, it's a million miles from either Anthony Payne's brilliant realisation of Elgar's Third Symphony or from Brian Newbould's masterly 'completions' of Schubert.
It's just something completely different indeed because the amount of material at hand vastly differs.

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Individual composers / Re: Grieg - second piano concerto?
« on: August 16, 2022, 07:31:56 am »
There are sketches for a second piano concerto in B Minor indeed. Actually they were already included in Einar Steen-Nøkleberg's recordings of Grieg's complete piano music on Naxos:
https://www.naxos.com/CatalogueDetail/?id=8.553400
As far as I know there are several concertos based on Grieg's sketches, not only by Beliaev. One of them (by Helge Evju) has been recorded on CD:
https://www.naxos.com/CatalogueDetail/?id=GP689
Another version is by Laurent Beeckmans. I have never really had a closer look at this topic, but my impression is that the sketches are rather limited in scope so that these concertos are really far more hypothetical than, say, Schubert's various symphony fragments as realized by Brian Newbould, Elgar's Third Symphony or the finale of Bruckner's Ninth. In fact, this also corresponds to what Evju himself wrote in the comments to this YouTube video (it seems there was even a competition for writing such a concerto in 1997!):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nVAtikv2Fo

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Downloads discussion / Re: Stanford conducts Stanford
« on: July 30, 2022, 09:07:53 pm »
Many thanks for the information indeed! The Critic was of course brand new when the recording was made (premiered earlier in 1916), and it does sound only reasonable that Stanford might have adapted some symphonic excerpts especially for the recording.

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Downloads discussion / Re: Stanford conducts Stanford
« on: July 30, 2022, 05:56:22 pm »
You are welcome! Fascinating historical documents. It's quite a bit magical to hear something recorded more than a hundred years ago written and conducted by somebody born in 1852.

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Forum news and announcements / Re: Welcome
« on: July 27, 2022, 08:59:10 pm »
Thanks a lot! Great to be here and meet many forum friends here again! :)

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